Google Apps for Education overview
I receive lots of questions and see lots of posts about the effective use of Google Apps for Education in the K-12 environment. Following are some of my thoughts.
- We used a separate domain for the staff and students since staff mail had to be archived (as per the eDiscovery regulations) and student email does not. We purchased staff email archiving from Gaggle who have a Gmail API that makes it simple. We do not use Gaggle for email accounts, however.
- Google Apps for Education works the same way as Google Apps Premier, with a tad less online storage space per user. The wonderful things about it is that any user can limit any publication to just those who are on the domain, if they wish. We use this when we are publishing something for only district staff. In addition, users can always selectively choose outside users (like our students on the other domain) to see their Docs, Calendars, Sites, etc.
- When you administer Google Apps for Education, you can chose to allow access (or dis-allow access) to the suite of tools -- Email, Calendar, Docs, Talk, Sites, Video, and Web Pages -- for all users. Google Groups and Blogger are not in the suite, but, of course may be easily used.
- We received explicit permission from our parents in grades 6-8 to give their students email accounts. Here is the permission slip we used for this special purpose. If I were to set this up again, I might simply create three domains-- one for staff, one for the middle and high school students with email turned on, and one for the younger students with email turned off, but with log-in access to Docs and Sites, to allow collaborative work to take place in a closed environment. You do not need to have email turned on to use these tools.
- We used the last two digits of YOG-last name-first initial for the student accounts. In addition, so their real name did not show up in the header of mail they sent, when setting up the accounts, I used the YOG-last name for the last name of the student and their first initial for their first name.
Here are some links to Nauset Google pages:
- Superintendent's Newsletter : this is coded to look like one of our Web pages, but is a Google Doc that the Superintendent's assistant updates each month. This is an easy way to distribute some of the updating of Web page info to others. She simply overwrites the content in the Google Doc each month and republishes, thus the hyperlink on the Web page remains the same.
- Cache the Wave: this is a summer professional development announcement and sign-up Google Site with embedded Google forms
- Google Goodies: this is a Google site with three parts-- a round-up of a weekly tip I sent to all staff and students, embedded screencasts for the basic Google Apps usage, and an RSS workshop I created for our adminstrators.
- Middle School Newsletter: although dated, this can give you some idea on how to distribute the work involved in your school-produced newsletter since each user can update their own pages of the shared Site. There is one thing different about Sites than Docs, though. When you make a change to a Google Sites page, it automatically goes live and with Docs you can choose to do it that same way or manually publish it when you are ready.
Updated information 10/11/09
- We continue to use Google sites inside the domain for teacher/student sharing.
- Many teachers have begun to create resource pages for their students using Google docs.
- We make extensive use of the calendaring functionality in Google Apps for Ed for staff purposes. IEP meetings, vacation schedules, literacy meetings, couselors' student meetings, etc. are scheduled with invitations to staff on non-public calendars.
- With the addition of Google video, which provides internal-only storage and access to videos, we have been able to post some school-wide items that we would not have wanted outside.
- Students are beginning to use Google Sites as a personal portfolio, attaching their work to the file cabinet page and embedding those items that are embeddable.
- We are using Google Forms for all types of data collection-- everything from registering for workshops to survey data of parents and community members, and much more.
- We have changed the student naming convention to start with the entire 4 digits of the year of graduation. The administrative sort and search is easier that way.
- We have made use of the offline capabilities of Google Calendar in a school that was having Internet-connection problems. Although the calendars are static on the machine, at least they are accessible.
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30 Comments:
Kathy - Great post and very informative for those of us considering using Google Apps for Education. I also watched your "how to" screencasts and they are also a great resourse. Thanks!
Kathy,
We were considering the same course of action at our school. However, students who already had their own Google Mail accounts were choosing to use them and not the Apps accounts set up for them. I guess school issued accounts can't win over what they can get themselves. Have you had any experience with the same thing happening with your guys?
Since our teachers will only share documents, calendars, and such with students using the school's domain, we have kinda "forced" them into using our accounts. We do explain about "business" vs. "personal" accounts, too, and explain that each serves a different purpose.
Thanks for the tips on the Google App. I think this is a great way to get kids involved with working on the internet. Also, I love the idea that you can limit who can see what you are posting.
Kath ... nice concise writeup .... thanks for sharing your views
... have linked to you from my list at
http://www.shambles.net/pages/learning/infolit/googleapps/
I'm a BIG Google Apps fan ;-) ... not only to support teaching/learning and admin/management ... but on top of all that it has the potential to save the school a bucket full of money.
Have fun
Hi Kathy. Thanks for your summary post. We've recently been approved and will pilot the Google Apps for Edu platform in grades 6-12 next year. The formal pilot will cover teachers and students in the grade 6 laptop pilot (150 students, 12 teachers). We have about 1000 students and 100 teachers grades 6-12, and I'm at odds with my IT department over shared contacts and shared groups. We want students and teachers (both are on the same platform--we were intentional about this) to be able to see an alpha list of contacts and groups in their individual gmail contact databases. I know that they can begin typing and get the contacts IF they know the name (and class year which is how our system works--ie, 13ldeisley@gmail.com) but that is cumbersome and it is inefficient for each person to setup all the groups we want them to have access to. Is there an API script somewhere that can resolve this for me?
Thanks!
We uploaded all the address books with a CSV file at the beginning, since you could not have a shared contact list of more than 200 users at that point. I suggest you ask the Google Apps Premier team your API question. We would not want that address book to be pulled from anything else, so I have not investigated it.
The admin can set up groups and others can email to the groups, if that works for you, but someone has to stay on top of it. We have one for all staff, and a couple of lesser ones.
Kathy,
Thank you so much for posting these guidelines. I have certainly been one of those people with questions. I'm in the process of trying to help a teacher implement Google Apps for Education at his school. This post really pulls it all together. The comments are helpful, too.
Best,
Wendy
We are looking at using Google Apps more at the 6-8 Middle School where I teach. I like the idea that the students and staff can work together on documents. From the Staff aspect, the school newsletter would be much more efficient using an social application like this.
I was concerned about how to implement the use of these programs and was relieved to see the sample of your permission slip. Thank you for the insight.
Hi Kathy, been a fan for a long time.
We used the Google/Gaggle setup last year for our new High School...I'm thinking of keeping all the email in Gaggle and using just Google Docs...how exactly do I turn off student email and maintain their docs account?
Thanks!
Jon
Jon,
You just create the accounts and simply uncheck email from the list of apps available to that domain. The one thing you will miss is notifications about shared documents and calendar events. The items will still show up in the student's Google Docs list and on the calendar when they visit those places.
Kathy
Kathy, we are also switching to Google Apps for staff and later for students. Wonder why you created a separate domain for students, versus a sub domain. We only want to backup up staff mail not student and are told we can do that with a subdomain.
Thanks. Sue
Hi Kathy,
I had the second comment on this post and I just want to say that I was talking to you at the Mimio exhibit and didn't realize who you were until I saw you on the big screen before the debate on Tuesday! So sad I didn't take the opportunity to say "thanks" for this post in person. Shucks.
Perhaps someone can clarify this for me, but I’m a bit confused by the “free” Google Apps for Education offer.
My understanding is that the profit model behind Gmail accounts is that the content can be scanned by Google for market analysis csa certification
reports (while still ensuring privacy of users, we are assured). Additionally, the content scanning means that targeted advertising can be integrated into the interface.
Not sure about content analysis, but there is no advertising at all in the Google Apps for Education interface.
My quandry is:
When I turn off "email" in Google Apps, how do I admin the account? I tried it the other day and I lost the ability to "manage this domain"...where can I find out more information along these lines?
Thanks much!
You should contact your "special" contact at Google that you have as part of the Google Apps account. There is a special PIN number that gives you access to the tech support people.
Will do!
Thanks much.
Jon
In my district we have just begun to use Google Apps for Education. So far it has been great. A lot to get used to, but for communicating with students, it has been flawless. The only drawback is that some students don't have high speed internet at home or access to a decent computer. Has anyone gone "paperless" in their classroom using Google Docs yet? If so, how have you streamlined it for turning assignments in and the getting them back to students?
Thanks Kathy for the informative article. I'm looking forward to unlocking the great potential that Google Apps for Education seems to posses.
@The Papa
So I assume that students can use the email feature of GoogleApps? What age are your kids that you teach? Any chance you have a copy of the AUP you made them sign? Did it mention their GoogleApps accounts?
Hi There,
I have looked at setting up separate domains for students and staff. Are you doing this within one google apps edu domain: for example staff.domain.edu and student.domain.edu or are you setting up a separate domain for students and a separate domain for staff?
If not the latter how are you creating these subdomains within one google apps domain?
We are using two separate domains-- nausetschools.net and nausetschools.org
I'm presenting a BYOL session on Google Tools at GaECT next month in Atlanta and would love to mention this blog posting about your use of Google Apps for Education. Has anything changed in the way your district is using Google Apps since this posting in June? Do you see Waves as being a useful tool for student collaboration on projects?
Thanks so much for always sharing with us!
I have added an update to the post above of some other aspects of Google Apps for Education we are making use of.
I'm a bit startled that our schools would just hand children google apps to use. Google apps are NOT a safe set of applications, and they open our children up to significant outside risk. No responsible administrator would bring that into their school district without some type of service to monitor content and ensure any questionable content is blocked. There are some terrific K-12 focused products out there that have all the benefits of Google apps without the risk. I would strongly suggest looking into them.
I am not quite sure why you feel there is a risk with Google Apps. With Google Apps for Education there are all types of safeguards to protect students-- keeping items only accessible by other students and not the outside world, sharing documents and sites only with others on the domain, leaving chat off, etc. It is not the same at all as the regular, free, Google Apps.
Kathy,
In order to separate your staff and student account, did you have to get two Google Ed App accounts? Or, can you add another domain or link it to another account? I've begun using Google Apps to complete staff walkthroughs. The forms in Google are perfect for collecting data over time. I piloted Marzanno's Iobservation system but decided to use Google instead.
9:05 PM
We requested a Google Apps account for each domain. I assume that is the only way to do it, since all of the permissions are based at the domain level.
I understand the you purchased two domains:
nausetschools.net and nausetschools.org
And I figure that .org is for the teachers and .net is for the students. How did you handle the domain name nausetschools.net? It seems it is the same webpage as nausetschools.org. Did you have your school website hosted in two different places? I am a DNS newbie but wondering how you used the nausetschools.net domain while using it only for the custom domain names in GoogleApps.
The DNS record for the domain (since we own all three (com, net, and org) all point to the nausetschools.org Web page. However, the mail alias actually has something in front of nausetschools.net so can be linked to Google/Gaggle.
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